Generation X vs Generation Y

by billso on Friday, 30 May 2008

I don’t want to get on a rant here, but I’m just some­one born very late in the baby boom. Frankly, I have more in com­mon with Gen­er­a­tion Y than with Gen­er­a­tion X. But both gen­er­a­tions have their faults. I saw this yes­ter­day, while I attended Peter Kay’s pre­sen­ta­tion on crowd sourc­ing at the May 2008 HTCA meet­ing. Peter kept ask­ing the audi­ence what web ser­vices they had used. The num­ber of hands got smaller with each ser­vice he named. Every­one had used Wikipedia. A few peo­ple knew about Twit­ter. Peter men­tioned a few sites I had never used, like InTrade and IdeaS­cale.

I was the only per­son who raised his hand for Ning, the social net­work­ing por­tal that hosts Tech­Hui and Peter’s lat­est project, HawaiiConCon.org. The Hon­olulu Advertiser’s arti­cle about the site is avail­able here. and I men­tioned Tech­Hui in my billso.com post on 31 March 2008.

The gen­er­a­tion gap

A few mem­bers of the audi­ence got ner­vous when Peter dis­cussed cor­po­rate wikis. I have heard and read sim­i­lar ques­tions as man­agers and aca­d­e­mics strug­gle to keep up with the dig­i­tal generation.

Tammy Erick­son has a top 10 list on Busi­ness Week with some excel­lent com­ments about gen­er­a­tional con­flicts in the workplace.

Maxwell House coffee canMore of the pre­cious lit­tle snowflakes — and they’re so many of them in Gen X (the gen­er­a­tion born between 1965 and 1982) and Gen Y (those born between 1983 and 1997) — need to wake up and smell the cof­fee.

It’s not Star­bucks coffee.

It’s not even a maple nut crunch latte from the 7–11.

It’s Maxwell House scooped from the big blue can, brewed in a vat, sim­mered to the con­sis­tency of loose mud and served in a tiny sty­ro­foam cup.

If you’re lucky, you get a lit­tle red plas­tic stir stick and some Cof­fee­mate. Denis Leary would be proud of this coffee-flavored coffee.

And if you’re really lucky, some­one made some Sanka because you can’t han­dle the caffeine.

Life sucks and it’s not fair

Many Gen Xers are hit­ting the ceil­ing in in their climb up the cor­po­rate lad­der. There’s fewer CXO spots than there are Gen Xers. It’s not fair, but those stub­born folks in Gen­er­a­tion Jones (born between 1954 and 1964) got there first. Their heroes are folks like Bill Gates, who would blow off his Har­vard courses and try to make up the study time with end-of-the-term all-nighters.

Fight in the office It’s bad tim­ing as the chil­dren of Gen­er­a­tions X and Jones are going on to col­lege and get­ting jobs. Mem­bers of Gen­er­a­tion Y have feel­ings of enti­tle­ment and priv­i­lege that crash against a wall of indif­fer­ence and dis­be­lief in the real world.

The heroes of Gen­er­a­tion Y are peo­ple like Face­book founder Mark Zucker­berg, who has bragged about skip­ping most of his Har­vard art his­tory course while he built a Face­book pro­to­type. Zucker­berg passed that class after he built an online study guide that his class­mates poured their notes and con­tent into dur­ing the end of term read­ing period. Zucker­berg and Bill Gates dropped out of Har­vard, but Zucker­berg got rich much faster. See this New York Times arti­cle for more details.

Heli­copter parents

Gen Xers hate how the Gen­er­a­tion Y calls their par­ents to ask advice about every­thing from class sched­ules to work respon­si­bil­i­ties. It’s awk­ward when a col­lege student’s heli­copter par­ent calls a pro­fes­sor to inter­vene on their child’s behalf. It’s dumb­found­ing when this hap­pens in the work­place. This 2006 MSNBC arti­cle about heli­copter par­ents who man­age their chil­drens’ job searches is a great example.

The cur­rent reces­sion only makes mat­ters worse for all involved. The home equity line is tapped out. No one wants to buy that piece of invest­ment prop­erty that looked like a sweet deal 3 years ago. Bonuses aren’t as com­mon at work any­more. This year’s vaca­tion became next year’s vaca­tion, and that’s just a maybe.

And yes, they’re buy­ing Maxwell House and brew­ing their cof­fee at home.

Escape — if you can

There is hope. A few Gen Xers escape from cor­po­rate jobs to start their own small busi­nesses. But many of the Xers are uncom­fort­able with mod­ern tech­nol­ogy. Text mes­sag­ing and social net­work­ing are too much to han­dle. They can deal with their Net­flix queue, but email is more their speed.

Mem­bers of Gen­er­a­tion Y have kept up with the changes. Some Gen Xers are jeal­ous that their younger Gen­er­a­tion Y can nav­i­gate the Inter­net so eas­ily and use online ser­vices to find new opportunities.

Some mem­bers of Gen­er­a­tion Y are over­whelmed with com­mu­ni­ca­tions options. Just read their blogs and feel their pain as they real­ize that every­day life is hard. Read­WriteWeb has a great col­lec­tion of Gen­er­a­tion Y links and RSS feeds, along with a video and some addi­tional discussion.

But as I men­tioned on 19 May 2008 in this billso.com arti­cle, many Amer­i­cans don’t read blogs or send emails. To them, all of this con­flict between gen­er­a­tions may mean very lit­tle at all.

Images cour­tesy of Road­side Pic­tures and mark_the_legend_foster through a Cre­ative Com­mons license.

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  • http://billso.com billso

    I have to start tag­ging my other rants!

  • http://dpeters1.myopenid.com/ Daniel Peters

    I’m a first year gen­er­a­tion Y. I’m right at that point where I’m com­fort­able with most tech, but recall a time when www didn’t exist in the pop­u­lar mind­set (7th grade i believe) and even when cell phones weren’t ubiquitous.

    The clash between gen­er­a­tions is always inter­est­ing. I fondly recall a series of great rants from George Car­lin where he disses the Baby Boomers. There is method in this, as each gen­er­a­tion is raised by the last (or prob­a­bly one before last). There is partly a reverse trickle of respon­si­bil­ity; cer­tain man­ner­isms and pit­falls of one gen­er­a­tion being the direct result of how the collective-stereotypical behav­iors of the entire gen­er­a­tion before them influ­enced and guided their upbringing.

    I recall a time when i had a heli­copter par­ent. It was around 4th grade. Par­ents are allowed to help you with your home­work up to a cer­tain point, but i find it ridicu­lous that a par­ent would choose their child’s classes in col­lege. Col­lege is sup­posed to be the short period in life where a child learns to be self suf­fi­cient and trans­mo­grify them­selves into an adult!

    It’s easy to look at the founders of microsoft, face­book, nap­ster, and other famous suc­cess sto­ries and want to drop out of col­lege, but these are the few rare peo­ple who are will­ing to risk every­thing in a carpe-diem-esque attempt to hit the jack­pot. How many peo­ple drop out of col­lege to get their big start up going only to ulti­mately fail? There is no easy money.

    I think Hawaii is an espe­cially extreme case in heli-parenting. The cost of liv­ing here man­dates a boomerang-generation of adults, and tra­di­tional paths to self-sufficiency rooted in home equity are prac­ti­cally nil here. I’m amazed when i chat with my cousins and other main­land friends and hear how calm they are about plan­ning to buy a house. Being able to sur­vive in hawaii’s eco­nomic cli­mate requires nepitism and guid­ance. It’s not like we can drive to another state and try to become inde­pen­dent there.

    Ah well, this we pretty stream of con­scious­ness. Hope some of it is of use in high­light­ing a GenY’s point of view.

    Also, 2 bonus points for the Leary cof­fee reference!

  • http://billso.com billso

    @ Daniel Peters:

    Dan, thanks for the well-written and thought­ful com­ment about my rant! I am not in George Carlin’s league. His 2003 New Year’s Eve show at the Blais­dell is one of my favorite live events ever, and that man can rant.

    You’ve got a great point about Hon­olulu. We’re not alone here. I’ve seen sim­i­lar behav­ior at expen­sive prep schools and in much larger cities like New York City and Atlanta. There’s an enti­tle­ment men­tal­ity that takes hold in gram­mar school. By the time some of these stu­dents get to col­lege, they can­not fend for themselves.

    I have met and taught many under­grad­u­ate and grad­u­ate stu­dents who were able to think and do for them­selves in col­lege. I’d like to think that “heli­copter enti­tle­ment” affects a small minor­ity of work­ers and students.

  • http://www.hawaiiconcon.org Peter Kay

    Great post, Bill! I, like you, feel like I’m absolutely right on the edge of the cliff in terms of gen­er­a­tional tech­nol­ogy acumen.

    At 45, I feel that the major­ity of those 5 or more years older are eons behind, techapp wise, and those 5 or more years younger are way ahead of the curve.

    http://www.HawaiiConCon.org might be a lit­tle ahead of its time in that it appeals more to the facebook/myspace crowd than it does to the email/AOL crowd, but I’m hop­ing that it might be a good way to intro­duce those older than I to a way of inter­act­ing they may want to try out.

    We’ll see.

    Keep it up man!

  • http://blog.snaptalent.com Nina

    Very inter­est­ing read. Older gen­er­a­tions who are open and recep­tive to new things ease the gen­er­a­tion gap. Check out my post on a sim­i­lar topic:

    http://blog.snaptalent.com/?p=13

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